I'm looking for a pre- and post-workout whey protein supplement for realistic gains in muscle mass and strength. Any suggestions?
I've tried a lot of different whey products, and I have to say Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard is by far and away the best. Not only is it the best tasting and easiest to mix, but it also comes with the best nutritional content, an extremely large variety of flavors (although you can't beat double rich chocolate), and has provided the most results for me.
In general, I try to stay away from BSN and other products that put together a good advertising campaign, but not enough (or too much) substance into their supplements.
Pre and post lifts are all about getting protein into your system as quick as possible.
optimum nutrition makes the best. only like 1 or 2gs of sugar and its low in cholesterol as well.
for pre and post if you want.
gold standard
You can check out their procomplex or nitrocore for a post. They also make a gainer (weight gainer)
Just remember real food is always better than a supplement.
AST VP2 is the most advanced and best protein in my opinion. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/vp2wheyisolate.html
I've tried a lot of different whey products, and I have to say Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard is by far and away the best. Not only is it the best tasting and easiest to mix, but it also comes with the best nutritional content, an extremely large variety of flavors (although you can't beat double rich chocolate), and has provided the most results for me.
In general, I try to stay away from BSN and other products that put together a good advertising campaign, but not enough (or too much) substance into their supplements.
For gains in muscle and strength you want to go with a mix of protein an carbohydrates. Biotest makes a couple of great products that I highly recommend. Surge Recovery is great for post workout. It contains 25grams of whey protein and about 45 grams of carbs.
Second what Dan says.
Surge is your best bet pre/post workout.
Or if you're cheap, use 100% whey mixed with a fruit.
A great protein powder is Muscle Milk Powder, Optimum Pro Complex (whey protein) and BSN Syntha 6 (whey protein). You could probably find most of them at a GNC.
I like Pro Complex - BCAA's, Vitamins, 60g protein, 5g carbs, 270 calories and the chocolate flavor tastes great mixed in water.
Protein is important but many of the answers forget to mention the most vital post-workout item: carbs!
You need fast acting, high glycemic carbs to replenish the depleted glycogen stores of a workout. Most studies show a 3:1 ratio is best, meaning if you take 10g protein, consume at least 30g carbs
biotest metabolic drive chocolate
What to look for: Whey and Casein
What are they? Whey and casein are the primary proteins found in milk. In fact, about 20 percent of the protein in milk is whey, and the other 80 percent is casein.
What's the diff? Both are high-quality proteins, but whey is known as a "fast protein." That's because it's quickly broken down into amino acids and absorbed into your bloodstream. This makes it a very good protein to consume after your workout. Casein, on the other hand, is digested more slowly, so it's ideal for providing your body with a steady supply of small amounts of protein for a longer period of time -- such as between meals or while you sleep.
Which one? Try a blend. Either will provide your muscles with the raw materials for growth, but combining them allows you to optimize your protein intake no matter when you down a shake.
The Label Decoder
To most guys, the ingredients list of a protein powder might as well be written in Sanskrit. That's because the label often names several subtypes of whey, casein, and even soy protein. Here's how to read the label like a chemist.
Concentrate: The cheapest form of most proteins. It contains slightly higher amounts of fat and carbohydrates than more pure versions and can be clumpy and hard to mix by hand. However, it provides the same basic muscle-building benefits. In the case of casein, it's referred to as "caseinate."
Isolate: A protein that's more pure than concentrate -- meaning it contains less fat and carbohydrates--and is also easier to mix.
Hydrosylate or hydrolyzed protein: A protein that's been broken down into smaller fractions than are in a concentrate or isolate, allowing it to be absorbed into your bloodstream more quickly. However, when it comes to casein hydrosylate, this defeats the purpose, since the benefit of consuming casein is that it's absorbed slowly.
Micellar Casein or Isolated Casein Peptide: An expensive protein composed almost entirely of pure casein, ensuring slow and steady absorption.
Milk Protein: An ingredient that has the composition of natural milk protein -- roughly 80 percent casein and 20 percent whey.
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EAS. Comes in a big purple and grey bag. Reasonably priced and rlly good. I buy it at costco or sams club. I recommend mixing it in some sort of shaker.