I have a little experience here, and a very different perspective developed thru this experience. First,if you have a raised foundation (plywood sub-floor) you can use solid wood flooring; which often costs equal or less than good engineered wood flooring. Second,the only engineered flooring worth money will have a minimum 1/8 inch wear layer and it should be solid sawn. There are a few exceptions to this rule. A sawn wear layer is real like a real piece of wood flooring would be and is laminated to a plywood backing. Unfortunately, most engineered pre-finished flooring has a peeled core veneer wear layer; which is code for cheap, porous, open grain plywood. Think cheap tract home plywood cabinets. Don't be enamored of warranties-- they are prorated, never cover the damage you actually might do, and are only sales tools. Manufacturers know your not likely to be in the home more than 5-7 years which means you won't ever have a legitimate claim. There are good pre-finished engineered floors out there, we do business with Mirage and Eco-Timber among others. Do not expect to get good advise from Lumber Liquidators-- if their staff knew what they were selling and the correct answers to the myriad of relevant questions they wouldn't work there. Same is true for Home Depot. Call a small mom and pop store/contractor, or call me and I'm usually happy to guide you into my shop! If you find a good local flooring contractor and he doesn't sell product, you can find good buys at the box stores, but only on in-stock items. Special order items will cost you just as much as your specialized/neighborhood flooring contractor, usually more. Never hire box stores for labor-- your probably not lucky enough to have that work well.
Now for a little philosophy. Cheap engineered, overly trendy wood floors and plastic laminates usually end up in a landfill pre-maturely. Laminate is obnoxiousely loud and alot of it looks dirty too easily because of it's texture. Think dogs nails clicking on hollow plastic. As previous comments suggested, it will not recover from moisture damage, it is just ruined. Think timeless design and craftsmanship that lasts-- that is value. If you cannot afford long term value simply paint or stain your sub-floor. This works for concrete and plywood. You can use stencils for creative license and I've even seen cool paper mache'(sp.?)designs.
None of this will mean a thing to you if you still value maximum sq. footage for minimum price, and if that describes you-- a heartfelt thank you is due from the defence industry.
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Consider the archicture of the house. It seems wrong somehow to put laminate in a house built in 1929. For a mid-century or later, laminate seems more appropriate.
For hardwood, I like recycled options like flooring made from whiskey barrels, old barns, and such but it is shockingly expensive. Whatever dollar amount per foot you are guessing, multiply it by a brazillion.
You should check out engineered vinyl from Armstrong. Its very durable and looks just as good as wood or laminate.
Go with reclaimed wood. It's a growing trend that people and retailers, like Restoration Hardware, are starting to really get behind. Reclaimed wood looks awesome as wood flooring and works well when reworked as a new piece of furniture.
I've seen reclaimed wood floors in a kitchen before, which looked great. The boards were wide, thick, and a had quite a bit of character to them. It's definitely something that can set you apart.
If you can afford it, go with engineered 100% of the time. Laminate not only looks tacky, but if you like to throw parties, this is an especially bad idea as it tends to bubble up with exposure to a lot of moisture. Check out your local "Lumber Liquidators" I recently found some Brazilian cherry hardwood for my house that was actually cheaper than the engineered variety.
I know the question was about pre-engineered or laminate flooring, but traditional hardwood flooring will offer a smooth finish instead of chamfered egdes of pre-engineered. Pre-engineered chamfers will trap dirt and are difficult to clean. Additionally, traditional hardwood can be refinished at any time whenever there is damage or abuse and restored to original condition. Since they are finished in place there is no limitation of type of wood, stain, or finish. On laminate, it looks cheap and disposable (replce it as you would carpet). Never use laminate where water will effect it. Just a thought, but in my opinion worth the money.
I agree with a lot of the posts. You're definitely going to want to consider the type/value of the property and determine the appropriate option. (EX :A mansion will probably not have laminate flooring) If you do determine that laminate is the right choice, it is very easy to install. Use a how to install laminate floor as a reference and have at it.
If you can afford it avoid the Laminate, is just glorified laminated newspaper. If you are going to shell out good money you want something that is going to last and look good for years to come. True hardwood floor is available in all price ranges.
Not to agree with the durability but you should know Laminate floors are constructed in 2 different methods called High Pressure Laminates (HPL) and Direct Pressure Laminates (DPL). The High Pressure Laminates involve a 2-step process that fuses and glues the components together. The Direct Pressure Laminates involve only a 1-step process where everything is fused together at once. Without getting too much in the details the High Pressure Laminates cost more to produce and generally have higher wear ratings.
I had laminate, I hated it. It's noisy, scrathes easily and not a durable as I had been told. Make sure you have a good reputable installer with whatever you choose. You get what you pay for.
There are two ways to look at it.
What does it look like new?
What does it look like in ten years?
Assuming you do a little homework and find an engineered floor at a price somewhat competitive with laminate, I don't see how there's any real comparison otherwise.
The engineered natural wood product (1/8" wear layer) over plywood substrate is incredibly durable and good looking initially because it is REAL WOOD.
In ten years, you may have to refinish the engineered product but the good news is: YOU CAN. You cannot refinish the laminate floor. Period.
If you live where you are likely to get sand tracked in, like we do here close to the beach, the finish will wear out on either floor. But you can re-vitalize the top layer of the real wood.
I went with laminate from Costco because it was relatively inexpensive, easy to install because they snap together in an interlocking fashion (did it all myself), and anything looks better than the awful vinyl flooring the house (now 9YO) came with. Could not justify the cost for hardwood because of the upfront costs and I knew we would not be in the house forever.
I did the dining room, kitchen, downstairs bathroom and pantry closet (all connected). Took two weekends total. One drawback is the fact that if any water forms between the boards, the edges will swell up a bit and form a slight peak. But replacing it is pretty easy. It's just a matter of removing the baseboard and then popping the boards back up. Just make sure you keep a few spare boards on hand.
That said, I did have to redo the bathroom since water leaked from the wax ring and got under the laminate. Went with a long, telescoping plastic ring the 2nd time around. Problems solved.
I have a little experience here, and a very different perspective developed thru this experience. First,if you have a raised foundation (plywood sub-floor) you can use solid wood flooring; which often costs equal or less than good engineered wood flooring. Second,the only engineered flooring worth money will have a minimum 1/8 inch wear layer and it should be solid sawn. There are a few exceptions to this rule. A sawn wear layer is real like a real piece of wood flooring would be and is laminated to a plywood backing. Unfortunately, most engineered pre-finished flooring has a peeled core veneer wear layer; which is code for cheap, porous, open grain plywood. Think cheap tract home plywood cabinets. Don't be enamored of warranties-- they are prorated, never cover the damage you actually might do, and are only sales tools. Manufacturers know your not likely to be in the home more than 5-7 years which means you won't ever have a legitimate claim. There are good pre-finished engineered floors out there, we do business with Mirage and Eco-Timber among others. Do not expect to get good advise from Lumber Liquidators-- if their staff knew what they were selling and the correct answers to the myriad of relevant questions they wouldn't work there. Same is true for Home Depot. Call a small mom and pop store/contractor, or call me and I'm usually happy to guide you into my shop! If you find a good local flooring contractor and he doesn't sell product, you can find good buys at the box stores, but only on in-stock items. Special order items will cost you just as much as your specialized/neighborhood flooring contractor, usually more. Never hire box stores for labor-- your probably not lucky enough to have that work well.
Now for a little philosophy. Cheap engineered, overly trendy wood floors and plastic laminates usually end up in a landfill pre-maturely. Laminate is obnoxiousely loud and alot of it looks dirty too easily because of it's texture. Think dogs nails clicking on hollow plastic. As previous comments suggested, it will not recover from moisture damage, it is just ruined. Think timeless design and craftsmanship that lasts-- that is value. If you cannot afford long term value simply paint or stain your sub-floor. This works for concrete and plywood. You can use stencils for creative license and I've even seen cool paper mache'(sp.?)designs.
None of this will mean a thing to you if you still value maximum sq. footage for minimum price, and if that describes you-- a heartfelt thank you is due from the defence industry.
amiller333@comcast.net
According to my wife, a realtor, for resale value go with engineered hardwood or the real thing
If there is not gonna be a ton of foot traffic with shoes or big dogs, then go for the engineered, it looks much better. I installed a rustic looking engineered wood floor in a basement home office last year and I love it. I found it on ebay for 3.50 a sq ft, it was a store that sells through ebay, so it was brand new. I priced the same exact wood at a local store and it was 7 bucks a sq ft.
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There are a few factors to consider that can help you decide which to go with.
First consider your budget: generally speaking laminate flooring is cheaper than engineered hardwoods, although sometimes you can find really good deals at surplus flooring stores, ie Lumber Liquidators
Resell value: Engineered hardwoods will raise your property value, not true with laminates. How much it will raise your property values depends on where you live and a whole bunch of other factors.
Aesthetics: They are constantly making better laminates that can look almost like real hardwoods. On some really good laminates, from far away, I can't tell the difference. Although at this point laminates usually cost as much or more than some engineered hardwoods.
Durability: Laminates will out last you! Actually both will but there is less maintenance with laminates. Laminates are more resistant to scratches so if you have pets, this may be a good option.
Hope this helps.